Chinky Mahoe
 

I'm splitting the Chinky Mahoe conversation from the "Have you met someone famous?" thread. Carry on.

Re: Have you met someone famous?
 

Impressive list, though perhaps Chinky Mahoe should go on an INfamous list.

Re: Have you met someone famous?
 

Only Chinky and the Gods know the truth. Therefore, I never have, nor will I start now, make comments or judgements about someone without knowing first hand the details on which to make such a judgement. :cool: E kala mai.

Re: Have you met someone famous?
 

Only Chinky, the Gods, and the four young boys he admitted in court that he molested. Oh, and their distraught families and friends. (See http://starbulletin.com/98/05/22/news/story6.html , among many other published news reports.)
A multi-year series of molestations and a guilty/no contest plea to five felony counts and one misdemeanor count are cold hard "truth" and "details", as is the fact that Chinky Mahoe not only did not apologize to the boys and their parents, he publicly refused to apologize to them.
I've seen many cases where he was a guest at various performances. There was almost no applause whatsoever when he walked on stage, and many people actually got up and left, including myself.
Like yourself, Tutulady, I can forgive and forget almost anything. But to let a convicted and acknowledged child molester continue to work with children and continue to represent the Hawaiian culture is nothing less than a travesty. Shame on those who stick their heads in the sand and pretend it never happened.
:mad:

Re: Have you met someone famous?
 

shame on those that promulgate bad news. it's not the island style.

Re: Have you met someone INfamous?
 

Nonsense.
Go ahead and tell that "island style" baloney to the next kids who get molested.
:mad:
Hooray for those who protect our island children from convicted child molesters like Chinky Mahoe!
:)

Re: Have you met someone famous?
 

Unlike you though, I tend not to take every word that's printed in the newspaper or that is spoken on a news report as law. All I'm saying is that I don't know all the details of that story as I was not in Hawai'i (or the US for that matter) when all that happened (the court hearing, et al. that is). I wouldn't call that sticking my head in the sand. Indeed, as a survivor of child molestation, I would be as angry, if not a right bit more were I able to go beyond news reports and find out FOR MYSELF just what the facts are... for reasons explained previously. I realise that it's hard to garner people's intent while using this type of platform but shame on you for turning something (this thread) perfectly positive and without malice, into something demeaning and mean spirited. But that's ok, I forgive you. :)

Re: Have you met someone INfamous?
 

You're absolutely right. In fact i support your next step; buying a big panel truck and plaster pictures of the incidents and chinky and the web links on the sides and back and drive all over Honolulu in warning.

Re: Chinky Mahoe
 

Why bother? Folks can warn themselves. Thanks to Megan's Law and some legislative tweaking, the Hawaii Sex Offender Registry is slowly coming back online. With only a handful of names there now, though, it'll take a while to catch up to Chinky...

His indictment and no contest plea are a matter of public record. True, each of us decides who to believe, how to judge (or not judge at all). But while this is hardly light-and-fluffy cocktail conversation, I don't think it's so awful to examine and debate.

Is it merely promulgating bad news, a violation of "the island style," to feel strongly about Chinky's case? What about forming opinions about Rene Mansho, or Andy Mirikitani? These are people who put themselves before the public eye... and in Chinky's case, entrusted with the care and guidance of children.

I'm all for "the island style," but not at the expense of occasionally calling a spade or spade, or acknowledging that darker things exist, even in Hawaii.

Actually, like Tutulady, I don't feel I know enough to form an opinion, either way. I think it's fine that some people have. Her initial mention was "perfectly positive and without malice," but it definitely sparked some debate. With a separate thread, it can continue.

Re: Have you met someone famous?
 

>> I wouldn't call that sticking my head in the sand. <<

Oh, I wasn't aiming that comment specifically at you, TutuLady; it was a general comment to the world at large.

>> I would be as angry, if not a right bit more were I able to go beyond news reports and find out FOR MYSELF just what the facts are. <<

That's easy. Go to http://www.courts.state.hi.us/index.jsp and under the Legal References heading click on Search Court Records. Once you enter that site you can enter a search for Howell Mahoe (Chinky's legal name) or search under Case ID number 1PC97-0-001219 and from there you can click on Court Minutes and read the official minutes from each appearance on the case, including the conviction and the sentencing. You can also see the original six charges.
So now that you can easily find out for yourself, are you angry (as you said you would be, above)?

Re: Chinky Mahoe
 

Admin you should move this topic to the forefront. It should be talked about. My friend had a son (12) who wasn't part of the Mahoe court
proceedings but he and his family have been affected by the incident
and typically local style, they don'tt discuss and he's not had therapy.
They kind of treat it like Auntie and TuTu and whoever thinks just because
you have Kumu infront your name that you have the right to molesting
children.

No one wants to hurt another person when they're down but
incidents like this with Chinky Mahoe and other celebritries
like nabors, a former modeling agent, so many settled cases
out of court and continue to... molest minors. Not right any way you
say it.

Re: Chinky Mahoe
 

At this point in time it's a very old thread. The message immediately before yours is dated Sept. 2004. Kinda hard to move a topic this old to the forefront. That's not a reflection on how I feel about this topic. But, the thread is old...outdated. Apparently no one felt the need to continue it almost a year and a half ago. If it makes the news again I'd guess this thread will be revived or a new thread started.

Ummm...just curious. How does the admin. move this topic "to the forefront"? He already split it from the famous people thread and renamed it. What more should he do, in your opinion? And, in the name of 'edumacation' ,<g> HT isn't a blog as you've referred to it in other messages. The HT admin. is the King of Blogs. This isn't one 'em but I've followed his real blogs for years! :D

Re: Chinky Mahoe
 

...jumping up and down! das how I started BLOGGING ~ I'm Auntie Pupule! :eek:

dis is a Public Forum. We "talk story!" :D

http://tinyurl.com/bt6en

Hi tutusue! ;)

Re: Chinky Mahoe
 

Bwahaha!
Hey, Auntie! Have you recovered from your birthday?

Re: Chinky Mahoe
 

Actually Girfriend, I almost recovered. Den I went to Chinatown last night. Back to Square one. :D

...back on topic. uhh. Neva mind. Old Thread. :eek:

Lynn

Re: Chinky Mahoe
 

Ok I get scoldings. Yeah it's an old thread and he's not (current news)
but "king of blogs" for Hawaii news is supposedly the best
place to confirm good story. Haven't seen anything yet. More like you all know each other long time and get on just to talk story. Where can i go
to dish dish?

Re: Chinky Mahoe
 

It depends what what you like "dish dish" on. Old threads are just that..."OLD". We are an Ohana here at HT. Yes, we have our fights like any community. We have our own opinions on various topics and sometimes threads get really HOT! However, each member is respected for their input as long as they go by the rules and regulations of this Forum. I have been guilty many a times of crossing the line but have wiggled and apologized my tail back in. :p

Hence, do a search on the Forum on what you may be interested in. Who knows it may generate interest again. Or start a new thread. Yes, most of the regulars know each other a long time. However, we embrace new members quickly and are quite helpful when asked for assistance.

Auntie Lynn

Re: Chinky Mahoe
 

I'm with candyglassy. The public has a short memory (we elected Mufi Hanneman, didn't we?), and this man should never be allowed to work with children, and those of us who care should probably remind everyone once in a while.

I believe in forgiveness and I could forgive Mr. Mahoe if he were to indicate in some way that he were repentant. But let him work with children again? Not just "no," but "hell no."

Those who are inclined to cut the guy some slack should ask themselves if they'd be just as willing if he were a kindergarten teacher.

Re: Have you met someone famous?
 

Likely on the advice of his attorney; a public apology is NOT recommended with a "no contest" plea. Nolo contendre is where a defendant agrees to the charges and declines to refute the evidence as presented; it cannot be used as an admission in other proceedings, whereas a public apology can.

Re: Chinky Mahoe
 

I'm kind of surprised Uncle George Naope allows Chinky to continue to list him as his kumu on his website.

Uncle George disassociated himself from an annual hula festival in Seattle (bruddah G knows which one) by refusing the festival the use of his name because he didn't like the politics involved with running the festival. That didn't hurt anyone but did deprive hundreds of local expats the opportunity to see 2 days of hula.

Pedophilia hurts innocent children.

Miulang

Re: Chinky Mahoe
 

I do indeed; luckily, the one year I participated, I not only had the honor of meeting him (as my kumu's kumu), but even got to see him dance a distinctly after-hours version of "Tewetewe." Unforgettable! (And it most assuredly was NOT performed in front of any children.)

Re: Chinky Mahoe
 

Was that the year that Uluwehe Guerero was a judge and Alaka'i Paleka was the announcer? That was our first festival too, and it was absolutely fantastic.

Miulang

Re: Chinky Mahoe
 

Since this is a thread about a convicted child molester, perhaps it would be a good idea to start a new thread about any festivals or other hula events and dancers, etc?
Just a thought.
:)

Re: Chinky Mahoe
 

Oooooh, some anonymous soul gave me a negative reputation point for the post quoted above.
I'm broken-hearted.
Shattered, even.
:rolleyes:

Re: Chinky Mahoe
 

Ouch. Wasn't me. We did go off-topic (that happens so rarely!) though, sorry. (Oops! We should be discussing this in the old "Reputation" thread, shouldn't we?)

Anyway, back to Mr. Mahoe. My earlier comment regarding his lack of public apology was not meant to defend or condemn him in any way (I'm not familiar enough with the circumstances), just to note why he may have been unwilling to make such a statement, likely on advice of counsel.